NAFUSA member Ted Olson, solicitor general of the United States 2001-2004, and assistant attorney general in charge of the Office of Legal Counsel, 1981-1984) has teamed up with his partner at Gibson Dunn, Ted Boutrous, in a new podcast (“The Two Teds”). Boutros is the global co-chair of Gibson Dunn’s litigation department.

Olson and Boutrous discuss some of the high-profile, high-stakes cases they have argued before the U.S. Supreme Court and elsewhere.You can listen to stories from inside the appellate litigation war room as the arguments were developed, and find out what it takes to win at the nation’s highest courts.